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PostSubject: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:07 pm

hallo geng2 AMO semua, i nak bincang & minta pendapat dr abang2 senior yg suda lama kerja ni.

pasal borang renten PER-PL 206 tu~

kan penyakit/diagnosis kita kat klinik kita ni kadang2 pelik2 atau yg canggih2 sampai tiada dlm borang 206 tu bila buat reten bulanan. pening tau~ terutamanya bila MA x da, JM tgk kes, lps tu diagnosis canggih2 diberi. pening palak bila buat reten.

borang PER-PL206 tu sebenarnya standard yg ditentukan oleh WHO tentang penyakit2 yg common & standard. maka tiada la dignosis seperti: malaise, bodyache, eye sore, AGE, dan macam2 la dianogsis local kita sendiri~ jadi susah bagi kita nak categorizekan mana group diagnosis kita ni.

so, di sini i minta pendapat org utk bincangkan mana nak letak diagnosis canggih kita ni.

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:13 pm

contoh nya: mana nak letak diagnosis: scratch

'chicken pox'

'fever/high fever'

'pedis tubuh'

dan lain2 lagi la, kalau ada clue bagi tau ye~
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:32 am

bounce baka tu ia kaban..... anang irau dek Rie....semua nya bisi dalam PER-PL 206 nya...tu lah di katakan orang ICD-10 Code...cth nya:-
AGE tau engkah dek lumur 1.
Bodyache / ' pedis tubuh' tau ga MSS Pain - 90
Eye sore tau engka dek.. lumur 46..lalu pasuk dalam Primary Eye Care Return(PEC) masalah sebenar ia.
Malaise tau engka dek 104
chickenpox engkah ke kod - 12 (varicella)
Fever tau ga 102...enti ia fever aja... ti bisi batuk n selsema engkah...56

cuma ba EYE problem tu ka keliru mimit..laban..maioh nadai dalam nya.....cthnya maslah ke biasa seperti F/Body dlm mata, pterygium, chalazion, stye dll....tapi...nuan ulih engka ngena code 46 tang nuan mesti masuk ke masalah sebenar "MATA" nya dlm PEC Return...

tapi aku....minta agai kita.... anang kelalu maioh tauka selalu engkah tau ngena Code lumur 105 (Reminder of symptoms, signs and ill-defined condition)...enggai ke ila... ia nyadi Top 10 commonest cases di OPD.. seolah kitai...enda nemu diagnosis penyakit....enti lebuh sida bos meda return kitai...
aku ditu....jarang sekali ngena code nya...(105)

diagnosis kitai seboleh-boleh nya....ka tepat enti history kitai betul..... nadai hal enti JM meda kes...nya perkara biasa..... padah agai sida mimit pasal code PER-PL 206 nya.... asoh sida nulis no kod....diagnosis...ni ke hampir-hampir..... laban dek empu nyamai ngaga return ila... enda pia ia???..semoga ianya dapat membantu...........work smart but don't work hard bro...

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:17 am

Aku suba pan baka d meh unggal Sia,tapi lama2 nemu d ngaga ia.Bila d selalu ngaga, nemu d meri diagnosis ke betul(ukai ke pelik2 agik)
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:30 pm

pia meh, tapi iya ke bisi FB nya ke pedis na, ka pen nda engkah ja ba 'reminder'.

ila2 nama bisi utai pelik2 tanya ba kitak baru auk~?
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:37 pm

mbalkamat meh diak ungal...
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:55 pm

senang ajak nya Sia,, peda aja cheif complain pt. dah nya gaga lah dianosis,, nti diagnosis d nadai dalam list engkah aja 105

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:50 pm

bounce enti history taking kitai betul n pemeriksaan fizikal kitai "fit" .... kitai tetap bisi Diagnosis.... anang irau.... seperti ti aku madah agai kitai.... code 105 tau di kena...tang anang maioh... ti bangat enda nemu tau lah ia di kena....laban bisi nyadi ba PPP kitai.....aku pan enda nemu sapa....sida Cif madah...Penyakit CODE 105...nyadi Diagnosis..2nd Top...dlm sebulan- sebulan... uaki semesti nya 105 nya enda tau di kena...tang...anang ga kelalu..... enti bisi 2 PPP agi senang...ulih berbincang....enda pia..ia...annag nganu au......kitai belajar ari kesilapan n pengalaman.... bounce bounce bounce

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:31 am

aku anda kala ngena 105 nya, laban nadai ga org datai nadai giagnosis deh?

enti nyau majak ngena 105 nya asai ku manah g buka kadai mamang/beliau. sepu ke diak meh~
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:07 pm

bounce FB nama nya kaban...Foreign Body kah??.......... Enti ia Foreign body...ba sentang ni... mata?...Telinga...hidung?..dll... Question

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:49 pm

tepulang ngagaikitai ka meri diagnosis,, janji anang kelalu lari

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:08 am

bounce amat nya....anang kelalu rari...rari kini Parrr????

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:06 am

mana2 part tubuh ka masuk FB meh~

enti HFMD deh?
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:54 pm

Very Happy enti ia FB ba bhgn tubuh..tau engkah dek code 111Y3....atau mana2 yang berkenaan.... enti ba Telinga...pun sama ga....enti ba mata....pun sama ga enti enda silap aku..tang perlu detail 'causes' dalam 'return PEC' nuan...... bisi RETURN PEC (Primary Eye Care) kah kita dia?????...laban dlm PEC bisi 55 iti pecahan specific causes..berkait ngau 'EYES"..... pia mega HFMD...code ia ianya 19 (Enterovirus Infection,Unspecified including Coxsackie virus)... enda pia ia bala kaban???....enti salah tau madah meh.... kitai sama belajar... cheers

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:19 am

Betul nya Parrr,. Nama d alu nda ngirum ka aku carta aliran pt d OPD,, lama ndar aku nganti to PARRRRRRR

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:20 pm

kami ditok nadai RETURN PEC yo~ (dinga pun enda kala)

ok, thanks for the tips, laban friday tok tadi i refer 1 case HFMD.
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:28 pm

bounce mungkin agi baru ba kita....laban nadai maioh dignosis dlm PL-PER 206 nya(Morbiditi)..Chalazion nadai...Stye nadai....Ptosis nadai...n maioh ke bukai agi.... aku enda nemu lah kita..dia.... engak SAMO nadai ngasuh baka nya.......ti nadai anang ngaga kerja lebih!!!! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:10 pm

betul tu~

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:01 pm

Dh bc HFMD d diak garey, nya sarinya ktawa ka ku.. Kak d inform baka AGE ka ses baka 2?
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:06 pm

Refer aja... ngagai Hospital/PK ia ke bisi MO....udah nya nuan notified..(isi borang Notification HFMD).lalu anjung ngagai PKD/PKB tauka call PKD/PKB..tang nuan mesti isi borang notification nya mega...

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:10 pm

Bakani borang nya cigu?
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:13 pm

Borangnya anjung skali maya nganjung reten nda?
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:40 pm

Aku maia ba A& E bc meda borang nyak suba.Ba KK aku nadai borang nyak.
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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:44 pm

pedih ka meda borang notification nya dto. minta mh ngau health inspector. tapi kitai kuraang ngena brg nya.. tp nti nasib nda ntu manah,,, tepaksa ga ngena...

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PostSubject: Re: PER-PL 206 (pin. 1/2003)   Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:41 pm

Ku nda meh kala meda borang notification nya, ngai ku kiruh nanya.. Pedih pala 2 g kak register pt. warga emas. Ari 2006 nadai, ngai nyadi ngena nama 2005..
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